Okay, I think I'm getting there!
1. I can now get a text list of SYNOPs from the countries that DA won't pick up.
2. What I need now, is to find out what data in OGIMET is not picked up and read by DA.
3. I can then edit the data in OGIMET before I cut and paste it into DA
4. I need to know where to paste it into the DA data (if that makes any differnce) and whether I need to add or subtract any more to the text before I finally paste it and run it in DA to produce a synoptic chart.
If anyone can help me with the above, I'd be most grateful.
Regards,
Dave.
European Users
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Dave Exton
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alanduckers
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Re: European Users
Hi Dave,
i copy the synop text into Note Pad and then i copy the 202306290900 AAXX 29094 part of the synop into the replace feature and leaving the other text box empty then press all.
This should remove this timestamp in all the synops for that time.
Dont worry if their is some reports with different timestamps DA will ignore these anyway.
I then save the latest COD file and then open with it with Note pad.
I then copy the modified synops into a AAXX portion
i.e.
SMKA01 PTYA 280600
AAXX 29094
It does not matter what the header says other than 28064 the 4 at the end means winds are reported in MPH whereas most European are AAXX 29091 which mans winds are reported in meters/second
i copy the synop text into Note Pad and then i copy the 202306290900 AAXX 29094 part of the synop into the replace feature and leaving the other text box empty then press all.
This should remove this timestamp in all the synops for that time.
Dont worry if their is some reports with different timestamps DA will ignore these anyway.
I then save the latest COD file and then open with it with Note pad.
I then copy the modified synops into a AAXX portion
i.e.
SMKA01 PTYA 280600
AAXX 29094
It does not matter what the header says other than 28064 the 4 at the end means winds are reported in MPH whereas most European are AAXX 29091 which mans winds are reported in meters/second
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alanduckers
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Re: European Users
Hi Dave,
i copy the synop text into Note Pad and then i copy the 202306290900 AAXX 29094 part of the synop into the replace feature and leaving the other text box empty then press all.
This should remove this timestamp in all the synops for that time.
Dont worry if their is some reports with different timestamps DA will ignore these anyway.
I then save the latest COD file and then open with it with Note pad.
I then copy the modified synops into a AAXX bulletin and then save the COD file and then load that into DA.
i.e.
SMKA01 PTYA 280600
AAXX 29094
It does not matter what the header says other than you have to careful with windspeeds.
ASXX 28064 the 4 at the end means winds are reported and plotted by DA in MPH whereas most European synops are AAXX 29091 which means winds are reported in meters/second. Therefore copy reports ending with 29094 post into a bulletin with ending in 4 and reports ending in ASXX 29091 post into a bulletin ending in 1.
Hope all this makes sense,
regards,
Alan
i copy the synop text into Note Pad and then i copy the 202306290900 AAXX 29094 part of the synop into the replace feature and leaving the other text box empty then press all.
This should remove this timestamp in all the synops for that time.
Dont worry if their is some reports with different timestamps DA will ignore these anyway.
I then save the latest COD file and then open with it with Note pad.
I then copy the modified synops into a AAXX bulletin and then save the COD file and then load that into DA.
i.e.
SMKA01 PTYA 280600
AAXX 29094
It does not matter what the header says other than you have to careful with windspeeds.
ASXX 28064 the 4 at the end means winds are reported and plotted by DA in MPH whereas most European synops are AAXX 29091 which means winds are reported in meters/second. Therefore copy reports ending with 29094 post into a bulletin with ending in 4 and reports ending in ASXX 29091 post into a bulletin ending in 1.
Hope all this makes sense,
regards,
Alan
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Dave Exton
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Re: European Users
Alan, you are a STAR!
Thank you so much. I'll let you know how I get on.
Regards,
Dave.
Thank you so much. I'll let you know how I get on.
Regards,
Dave.
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Phil Layton
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Re: European Users
Yes, I do the same as Alan.
Raw synopsis from Ogimet
latest SYNOP reports from United Kingdom before 06/29/2023 21:05:59 UTC
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202306292000 AAXX 29204 03002 25982 02005 10135 20085 30065 40083 57015
333 60005 91007 90710 91110==
202306292030 AAXX 29201 03005 45/81 82103 10118 20088 39984 40082 92030
333 88/59 91004==
202306292000 AAXX 29204 03008 25983 51808 10122 20097 30017 40086 57017 85///
333 60005 83/59 82/60 91011 90710 91112==
202306292030 AAXX 29201 03017 476// 81404 10121 20113 30047 40078 723// 88/// 92030==
202306292030 AAXX 29201 03023 472// 82408 10137 20131 30073 40078 761// 88/// 92030==
202306292000 AAXX 29204 03026 27449 82107 10123 20112 30055 40073 58014 760// 88///
333 55300 20039 60045 87/18 83/32 84/45 91010
90710 91114==
Then using Notepad, Find and replace
202306292000 AAXX 29204 with a ‘blank’ box
do the same with
202306292030 AAXX 29201 (as there seems to be both)
and also with
202306292030 AAXX 2920/ (if there are any)
so you will end up with
03002 25982 02005 10135 20085 30065 40083 57015
333 60005 91007 90710 91110==
03005 45/81 82103 10118 20088 39984 40082 92030
333 88/59 91004==
03008 25983 51808 10122 20097 30017 40086 57017 85///
333 60005 83/59 82/60 91011 90710 91112==
03017 476// 81404 10121 20113 30047 40078 723// 88/// 92030==
etc
Put
AAXX 29204 as a header and save as a 'file' (call it what you like) in the data directory. Then import directory, and it will add it to anything you have imported from the COD.
Try to download the ‘main hour’ Synops ie 1800 as opposed to 1830 1840 as these seem to have m/s winds as opposed to knots.
The data is out there, but it is a real hassle to sort at times. I only download the UK & Ireland synops when they are not on COD and use METARs for the rest!
Phil
Raw synopsis from Ogimet
latest SYNOP reports from United Kingdom before 06/29/2023 21:05:59 UTC
##########################################################
202306292000 AAXX 29204 03002 25982 02005 10135 20085 30065 40083 57015
333 60005 91007 90710 91110==
202306292030 AAXX 29201 03005 45/81 82103 10118 20088 39984 40082 92030
333 88/59 91004==
202306292000 AAXX 29204 03008 25983 51808 10122 20097 30017 40086 57017 85///
333 60005 83/59 82/60 91011 90710 91112==
202306292030 AAXX 29201 03017 476// 81404 10121 20113 30047 40078 723// 88/// 92030==
202306292030 AAXX 29201 03023 472// 82408 10137 20131 30073 40078 761// 88/// 92030==
202306292000 AAXX 29204 03026 27449 82107 10123 20112 30055 40073 58014 760// 88///
333 55300 20039 60045 87/18 83/32 84/45 91010
90710 91114==
Then using Notepad, Find and replace
202306292000 AAXX 29204 with a ‘blank’ box
do the same with
202306292030 AAXX 29201 (as there seems to be both)
and also with
202306292030 AAXX 2920/ (if there are any)
so you will end up with
03002 25982 02005 10135 20085 30065 40083 57015
333 60005 91007 90710 91110==
03005 45/81 82103 10118 20088 39984 40082 92030
333 88/59 91004==
03008 25983 51808 10122 20097 30017 40086 57017 85///
333 60005 83/59 82/60 91011 90710 91112==
03017 476// 81404 10121 20113 30047 40078 723// 88/// 92030==
etc
Put
AAXX 29204 as a header and save as a 'file' (call it what you like) in the data directory. Then import directory, and it will add it to anything you have imported from the COD.
Try to download the ‘main hour’ Synops ie 1800 as opposed to 1830 1840 as these seem to have m/s winds as opposed to knots.
The data is out there, but it is a real hassle to sort at times. I only download the UK & Ireland synops when they are not on COD and use METARs for the rest!
Phil
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Dave Exton
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Re: European Users
Thanks Phil,
As with Alan, thanks for your reply, it's really appreciated!
It does sound fairly long-winded, but I'm sure the finished product is worth it.
Regards,
Dave.
As with Alan, thanks for your reply, it's really appreciated!
It does sound fairly long-winded, but I'm sure the finished product is worth it.
Regards,
Dave.
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Dave Exton
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- Location: Bristol, UK
Re: European Users
Hi guys,
Thanks Phil and Alan for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
As yet, I haven't been able to make it work, which is a little disappointing, but I'll persevere until I get it sorted.
i've managed the download from OGIMET and I've managed the find next. I've managed to copy the result to a file, but adding it to the data directory hasn't proved successful.
Obviously I'm missing a trick, so I'll keep muddling through until something happens.
I think its lack of familiarty with OGIMET and manipulating the data directory in DA. I've always used the full blown WORD to write all my letters, so even Word Pad is unfamiliar to me.
Anyway, it was good of you to take the time to explain the process, and I'll keep trying until I get it right.
Regards, Dave.
Thanks Phil and Alan for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
As yet, I haven't been able to make it work, which is a little disappointing, but I'll persevere until I get it sorted.
i've managed the download from OGIMET and I've managed the find next. I've managed to copy the result to a file, but adding it to the data directory hasn't proved successful.
Obviously I'm missing a trick, so I'll keep muddling through until something happens.
I think its lack of familiarty with OGIMET and manipulating the data directory in DA. I've always used the full blown WORD to write all my letters, so even Word Pad is unfamiliar to me.
Anyway, it was good of you to take the time to explain the process, and I'll keep trying until I get it right.
Regards, Dave.
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Dave Exton
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- Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:17 pm
- Location: Bristol, UK
Re: European Users
Hi guys,
Thanks Phil and Alan for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
As yet, I haven't been able to make it work, which is a little disappointing, but I'll persevere until I get it sorted.
i've managed the download from OGIMET and I've managed the find next. I've managed to copy the result to a file, but adding it to the data directory hasn't proved successful.
Obviously I'm missing a trick, so I'll keep muddling through until something happens.
I think its lack of familiarty with OGIMET and manipulating the data directory in DA. I've alwaysused the full blown WORD to write all my letters, so even Word Pad is unfamiliar to me.
Anyway, it was good of you to take the time to explain the process, and I'll keep trying until I get it right.
Regards, Dave.
Thanks Phil and Alan for your help, it's greatly appreciated!
As yet, I haven't been able to make it work, which is a little disappointing, but I'll persevere until I get it sorted.
i've managed the download from OGIMET and I've managed the find next. I've managed to copy the result to a file, but adding it to the data directory hasn't proved successful.
Obviously I'm missing a trick, so I'll keep muddling through until something happens.
I think its lack of familiarty with OGIMET and manipulating the data directory in DA. I've alwaysused the full blown WORD to write all my letters, so even Word Pad is unfamiliar to me.
Anyway, it was good of you to take the time to explain the process, and I'll keep trying until I get it right.
Regards, Dave.
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Phil Layton
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Re: European Users
Hi Dave,
Just going through the process again - for into I use Notepad not Wordpad.
Download your OGIMET synops and post into Notepad. They look like this..(download the TXT not HTML)
##########################################################
# Query made at 07/03/2023 14:39:54 UTC
##########################################################
##########################################################
# latest SYNOP reports from United Kingdom before 07/03/2023 14:39:54 UTC
##########################################################
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03002 25580 80312 10125 20089 39927 49945 52012 88///
333 60005 88/23 91016 90710 91119==
202307031400 AAXX 03141 03005 47/32 80207 10108 20104 39847 49944 750//
333 88/01 91010==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03008 27572 83412 10122 20106 39876 49943 52010 722// 88///
333 60005 88/29 91017 90710 91117==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03017 27159 83512 10121 20118 39926 49957 53007 750// 88///
333 55300 20508 69985 88/03 91015 90710 91124==
202307031400 AAXX 03141 03023 454// 82810 10147 20105 30000 40004 84///
333 88/56==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03026 27389 82713 10148 20120 39967 49985 52003 721// 88///
333 55300 21301 60005 88/09 91018 90710 91119==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03031 27584 82716 10119 20085 39674 49990 52004 761// 88///
333 55300 21185 60005 88/23 91021 90710 91121==
Then as described 'Replace' in Notepad to remove the Ogimet timestamps (202307031400 AAXX 03144 ) so that the file above now looks like
03002 25580 80312 10125 20089 39927 49945 52012 88///
333 60005 88/23 91016 90710 91119==
03005 47/32 80207 10108 20104 39847 49944 750//
333 88/01 91010==
03008 27572 83412 10122 20106 39876 49943 52010 722// 88///
333 60005 88/29 91017 90710 91117==
03017 27159 83512 10121 20118 39926 49957 53007 750// 88///
333 55300 20508 69985 88/03 91015 90710 91124==
03023 454// 82810 10147 20105 30000 40004 84///
333 88/56==
03026 27389 82713 10148 20120 39967 49985 52003 721// 88///
333 55300 21301 60005 88/09 91018 90710 91119==
03031 27584 82716 10119 20085 39674 49990 52004 761// 88///
333 55300 21185 60005 88/23 91021 90710 91121==
Then put a header on the file AAXX 03144
so that the file looks like
AAXX 03144
03002 25580 80312 10125 20089 39927 49945 52012 88///
333 60005 88/23 91016 90710 91119==
03005 47/32 80207 10108 20104 39847 49944 750//
333 88/01 91010==
03008 27572 83412 10122 20106 39876 49943 52010 722// 88///
333 60005 88/29 91017 90710 91117==
03017 27159 83512 10121 20118 39926 49957 53007 750// 88///
333 55300 20508 69985 88/03 91015 90710 91124==
03023 454// 82810 10147 20105 30000 40004 84///
333 88/56==
03026 27389 82713 10148 20120 39967 49985 52003 721// 88///
333 55300 21301 60005 88/09 91018 90710 91119==
03031 27584 82716 10119 20085 39674 49990 52004 761// 88///
save that file as any name lets say 'reports'
into
File>'Your name'>AppData>Local>DigitalAtmosphere2017>data
Note 'Your name' is the windows file created when you sign in to the computer
I dont know what version of Digital Atmosphere you have so DigitalAtmosphere2017 could be DigitalAtmospher2015
Then in Digital Atmosphere, run File Import directory
Then Data>Data plots
and they should display.
Phil
Just going through the process again - for into I use Notepad not Wordpad.
Download your OGIMET synops and post into Notepad. They look like this..(download the TXT not HTML)
##########################################################
# Query made at 07/03/2023 14:39:54 UTC
##########################################################
##########################################################
# latest SYNOP reports from United Kingdom before 07/03/2023 14:39:54 UTC
##########################################################
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03002 25580 80312 10125 20089 39927 49945 52012 88///
333 60005 88/23 91016 90710 91119==
202307031400 AAXX 03141 03005 47/32 80207 10108 20104 39847 49944 750//
333 88/01 91010==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03008 27572 83412 10122 20106 39876 49943 52010 722// 88///
333 60005 88/29 91017 90710 91117==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03017 27159 83512 10121 20118 39926 49957 53007 750// 88///
333 55300 20508 69985 88/03 91015 90710 91124==
202307031400 AAXX 03141 03023 454// 82810 10147 20105 30000 40004 84///
333 88/56==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03026 27389 82713 10148 20120 39967 49985 52003 721// 88///
333 55300 21301 60005 88/09 91018 90710 91119==
202307031400 AAXX 03144 03031 27584 82716 10119 20085 39674 49990 52004 761// 88///
333 55300 21185 60005 88/23 91021 90710 91121==
Then as described 'Replace' in Notepad to remove the Ogimet timestamps (202307031400 AAXX 03144 ) so that the file above now looks like
03002 25580 80312 10125 20089 39927 49945 52012 88///
333 60005 88/23 91016 90710 91119==
03005 47/32 80207 10108 20104 39847 49944 750//
333 88/01 91010==
03008 27572 83412 10122 20106 39876 49943 52010 722// 88///
333 60005 88/29 91017 90710 91117==
03017 27159 83512 10121 20118 39926 49957 53007 750// 88///
333 55300 20508 69985 88/03 91015 90710 91124==
03023 454// 82810 10147 20105 30000 40004 84///
333 88/56==
03026 27389 82713 10148 20120 39967 49985 52003 721// 88///
333 55300 21301 60005 88/09 91018 90710 91119==
03031 27584 82716 10119 20085 39674 49990 52004 761// 88///
333 55300 21185 60005 88/23 91021 90710 91121==
Then put a header on the file AAXX 03144
so that the file looks like
AAXX 03144
03002 25580 80312 10125 20089 39927 49945 52012 88///
333 60005 88/23 91016 90710 91119==
03005 47/32 80207 10108 20104 39847 49944 750//
333 88/01 91010==
03008 27572 83412 10122 20106 39876 49943 52010 722// 88///
333 60005 88/29 91017 90710 91117==
03017 27159 83512 10121 20118 39926 49957 53007 750// 88///
333 55300 20508 69985 88/03 91015 90710 91124==
03023 454// 82810 10147 20105 30000 40004 84///
333 88/56==
03026 27389 82713 10148 20120 39967 49985 52003 721// 88///
333 55300 21301 60005 88/09 91018 90710 91119==
03031 27584 82716 10119 20085 39674 49990 52004 761// 88///
save that file as any name lets say 'reports'
into
File>'Your name'>AppData>Local>DigitalAtmosphere2017>data
Note 'Your name' is the windows file created when you sign in to the computer
I dont know what version of Digital Atmosphere you have so DigitalAtmosphere2017 could be DigitalAtmospher2015
Then in Digital Atmosphere, run File Import directory
Then Data>Data plots
and they should display.
Phil
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Dave Exton
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Re: European Users
Hi Phil,
Thanks again for taking the time and trouble to go through this.
i have managed to get the data from OGIMET
I have been able to copy into word pad, and extract the time stamps.
I have NOT really understood how to name the files, but I have given them my own names, eg SWD 3 7 18. or GMY 3 7 18, and i've saved these to my desk top so that I can study / eddit them as required.
i have been able to cut and paste them into the data directory, which is as far as I'vemanaged successfully,
Using <File> <Import Directory> has not yeilded any results, but I will keep trying.
i'm going to give up now, which is very disappointing. I think it's down to Tim now to fix this. I've just purchased a new version of the latest DA (Pro Version) which I have been using in its various incarnations for more than a decade. I perchased the new one bassed on the promise off all the bells and whistles, which I hoped would fix the problem of the large lack of Euro coverage. i'm quite sisolusioned now, and to be honest I feel a bit ripped off. No matter, all good things must come to an end, and I guess that's it for me and DA.
Thanks again for your imput, Phil, I really do apprecite your efforts.
Best wishes,
Dave.
Thanks again for taking the time and trouble to go through this.
i have managed to get the data from OGIMET
I have been able to copy into word pad, and extract the time stamps.
I have NOT really understood how to name the files, but I have given them my own names, eg SWD 3 7 18. or GMY 3 7 18, and i've saved these to my desk top so that I can study / eddit them as required.
i have been able to cut and paste them into the data directory, which is as far as I'vemanaged successfully,
Using <File> <Import Directory> has not yeilded any results, but I will keep trying.
i'm going to give up now, which is very disappointing. I think it's down to Tim now to fix this. I've just purchased a new version of the latest DA (Pro Version) which I have been using in its various incarnations for more than a decade. I perchased the new one bassed on the promise off all the bells and whistles, which I hoped would fix the problem of the large lack of Euro coverage. i'm quite sisolusioned now, and to be honest I feel a bit ripped off. No matter, all good things must come to an end, and I guess that's it for me and DA.
Thanks again for your imput, Phil, I really do apprecite your efforts.
Best wishes,
Dave.